The nature of god, free will and eternity

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  • Created by: Twalia
  • Created on: 28-05-21 23:52
  • we are mortal beings and our language reflects this
  • god does not experience this passage of time, so he will not make mistakes or suffer consequences
  • things decay in time, and god cannot decay
  • he is timeless and so he is perfect
  • what can his relationship to us be? 
  • we don’t necessarily have free will just because we think we do
  • if god is timeless, then he made us knowing our fate
  • since augustine, the question of free will and predestination has been a concern
  • the timelessness of god is very significant
  • boethius’ book ‘the consolation of philosophy’ was written in prison awaiting execution
  • it contributed greatly to philosophical thought on the nature of god
  • he wrote his book to explain why he had been left to die by god and fortune
  • it is a dialogue between himself and lady philosophy
  • boethius argued for the timelessness of god. 
  • our now makes time…as if it were running along. but the divine now remains, not moving, standing still, makes eternity.
  • in his day scientists believed the stars and planets were necessary, like god
  • for boethius god is outside and unaffected by time
  • he is in his own eternity where everything is now
  • boethius argues that ‘eternity is the complete possession all at once of illimitable life’
  • some claimed boethius placed god completely outside the time process, which is not true
  • he wanted to distinguish from aristotle’s everlasting, unchanging and indifferent god
  • boethius goes further, asking the difference between our knowledge of god and god’s own knowledge
  • boethius uses time-bound words but he wants to deny that god is in time, in a reality beyond our understanding
  • for boethius, god has both duration and atemporality at once
  • there is some criticisms here, though, too
  • for boethius, the eternal is not reducible to time but is also not in any way incompatible with time
  • this poses two problems: is boethius’ notion of eternity coherent? how can the eternal interact with the temporal?
  • the notion of time is complicated
  • some philosophers say time is the duration of objects and not separate from this
  • time is what we attribute to the lasting of things
  • if there are no objects, there is nothing
  • god is not an object, so maybe he could be outside the time process
  • he has no duration, so he has no time
  • we are aware that time may not be the unchanging thing that we experience every day
  • we use language to imply that time is a process
  • but if time’s continuity is an illusion, how do we understand it?
  • a key question here is if god can change the past
  • for boethius, he can’t. we are temporal so we have a past, but god does not
  • eleonore stump argued that ‘god cannot alter the past but he can alter the course of the battle of waterloo’ because it is not in the past for him
  • but simply saying god cannot alter the past leaves the question of how he…

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