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- Once Pip's ambition begins to grow, he moves away from his roots at the forge, dreams of London, doesn't belong there or at the forge at the end of the novella, he is lost
- Cyclical movement in the novella, does Pip ever actually develop?
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- Similar to Great Gatsby, moulding his life with the idea of Estella/Daisy being in it, has no hope after this dream is made impossible
- Thoughts also similar in Gatsby, the american dream, anyone can achieve (very modern thoughts), Pip and Gatsby's class prevent them from acceptance in the upper class despite wealth
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