Structure Of Presents From My Aunts In Pakistan

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Ok, guys. The GCSEs are coming...believe it or not. Hopefully you guys are all entered in for Higher tier (I did specify this at the beginning), so we can really do some detailed analysis. To get A*, you need to have originality and flair. So be original and creative! If I make a starting point, we can all try to extend it to make a really good A* worthy point. We'd all be helping each other!

So here's the starting point.

In Presents From My Aunts In Pakistan, the lines are disjointed from one another, which emphasises how unsettled she is in her culture.

Remember, don't be afraid to correct me and each other, we're all trying to improve! :D

Posted: 28-03-10 11:02 by Samantha Jordan

Zahraa Mer wrote: To get A*, you need to have originality and flair.

Maybe the A* is putting you off. But if we all aim high, we'll all do loads better. Don't worry if you think that you're point is rubbish, we'll all help to develop it! ;)

Posted: 28-03-10 16:49 by Samantha Jordan

Can we also discuss Armitage, Duffy and Pre-1914 poetry on here?

Posted: 28-03-10 18:13 by Jerome Leibovici

Jerome Leibovici wrote: Can we also discuss Armitage, Duffy and Pre-1914 poetry on here?

Well, first off, Jerome, I don't do those poems, I do Heaney, Clarke, and Pre-1914. Sorry, there. But, for any literature poems, I've made a seperate group which you'll find on my profile devoted to the literature poems. But it's not for the ones you do. So, sorry, pal. But you must do the English language ones? Do you do Cluster 1 or Cluster 2? Or if you don't know, then give me the name of one the poems and I'll tell you.

Speak soon, Zahraa. :D

Posted: 28-03-10 18:18 by Samantha Jordan

What about Sonnet130 ??
This is my favourite sonnet, and has a real background:

This sonnet plays against the fashion of sonnet writing, and rejects conventional poetry by suggesting her physical qualities are nothing in comparison with her character. Shakespeare ever goes as far to suggest her eyes "are nothing like the sun", whilst you'd expect a comparison to a beautiful object.

A* tips:

Integrate quotations
don't just talk about context, talk about structure. For example in Sonnet 130 you may suggest the "structure conforms with a traditional sonnet, but the context is unusual".

Posted: 01-04-10 16:47 by Tomasz D

Thequareroot ofone wrote: don't just talk about context, talk about structure

You're right. You should aim to talk about:

  • Themes
  • Structure
  • Language
  • Feelings and ideas
  • Own opinion

You should try and include a paragraph on each section to really cover all aspects of the poem. By the way, you are a LEGEND.

Posted: 05-04-10 17:17 by Samantha Jordan

oh i haven't dun this poem yett, which one's have yu covered ? coz i may be duin those, so mayb i can discuss em too. i wanna get A* in english too ! =)

Posted: 12-04-10 14:46 by ;

I really want an A/A* in English but it's soo hard!

Posted: 15-04-10 13:38 by Nadeem P

Zahraa Mer wrote: By the way, you are a LEGEND.

Thank you ^^

In pre1914 poems we've covered:

  • On my first Sonne
  • Little boy lost/found (wouldn't suggest this one personally, not a lot of context to it)
  • Sonnet 130
  • My Last Duchess
  • The Laboratory

Would recommend these, as they are the ones which you can link the most, and also the ones which are easiest to write a lot about. (All higher by the way)

Posted: 19-04-10 13:48 by Tomasz D

Nadeem P wrote: I really want an A/A* in English but it's soo hard!

The thing is with the A* in English, is it's really hard to get because your marks are nearly entirely dependent on your examiners opinion in your writing style. If you are considered an "A*" candidate, your chances of getting an A* are nearly 1/2 I reckon.

The easiest way to get marks in the poems is by COMPARING and not CONTRASTING. Making sure you talk about what the poems have in common, not how they are different

Top tip :) Hope it helps

Posted: 19-04-10 13:53 by Tomasz D

Cool -- thanks for that :)

Posted: 19-04-10 16:32 by Nadeem P

For the structure of lit POetry u hav to includ:

I- Introduction to all four poems by mentioning the names and how they link to the question.

S- Structure- discuss all four poems in seperate paragraphs and mention the points but make sure you fully explain 1 point which relates to the poem E.G a enjabment reflects on the continuous and hardwork......

L- Language- again discuss all four poems but pick 2 points and do P.E.E explaing the pupose of the poetic devie and how it links to the question. This means you will have 8 paragraphs 2 for each poems stating point evidenc (quotation) explanation and then linking also to the question or comparing with the previouse poem. Also REMEMBER this is where alot of marks can be obtained from ALWAYS add quotations stating if thery are metaphore similes etc and explaining the effect of the use of the word.

A- Attitude and felleings- 4paragraphs each para discussing the Feelings ofthe speaker in the poem and how they feel about the poem also use quotations to back up your point and link to the question.

P- personal response - which poem you feel relates to th equestion in the best and why yu think that.

when relating t the question means relatiing to the themed given in the question for example "love"

Posted: 11-04-11 12:22 by javeria bibi

Jerome Leibovici wrote: Can we also discuss Armitage, Duffy and Pre-1914 poetry on here?

I did these poems last year for my English lit GCSE and got an A and am now studying at college, so if you want any advice or notes then please do ask! Presents from my Aunts was one of my favourites but I wasn't such a fan of the Pre 1914 stuff.

Modified once, last modified by Kaitlin on Wed 13th April, 2011 @ 15:05

Posted: 13-04-11 15:05 by Kaitlin

Samantha Jordan wrote:

Zahraa Mer wrote: To get A*, you need to have originality and flair.

Maybe the A* is putting you off. But if we all aim high, we'll all do loads better. Don't worry if you think that you're point is rubbish, we'll all help to develop it! ;)

Posted: 29-01-18 17:12 by Josiahb13

Samantha Jordan wrote:

Zahraa Mer wrote: To get A*, you need to have originality and flair.

Maybe the A* is putting you off. But if we all aim high, we'll all do loads better. Don't worry if you think that you're point is rubbish, we'll all help to develop it! ;)

Posted: 29-01-18 17:12 by Josiahb13