TofV History

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  • Were the Treaties of 1919-1923 Fair?
    • Could the Treaties be Justified at the Time?
      • Yes
        • Brest-Litovsk
          • Harsher treaty on Russia
            • Lost 32% of arable land
            • 54% of industry - 300 mil gold roubles
        • Self-determination
          • 14 pts - Czech/Poland/Yugoslavia
        • Armistice
          • Agreed to losses in territory and army
        • Self-Inflicted economy crisis
          • Kaiser put into debt
      • No
        • Germany thought it would be treated better - 14 pts
        • Diktat- G couldn't oppose - wasn't represented at TofV
        • War guilt unfair - Not soley to blame
          • £66bn would cripple
        • Disarmament
          • Felt it would leave them vulnerable - no one else disarmed
    • What Were the Motives and Aims of the Big Three?
      • General
        • Peace
          • Clemenceau : Hit hardest by the war- Time to rebuild
          • WW: Make world safe - 14 points
          • 8 Million Soldiers dead
          • 9 Million Civilians dead
          • 112 French Coal Mines destroyed - Alsace Lorraine & Rhineland
      • Woodrow Wilson
        • 14 Points - Introduced 8 Jan 1918
          • Not Treat Germany too harshly
            • G would want Revenge
          • Spread Democracy in defeated nations
            • No Dictatorships - Germany & Weimar
          • Co-operation between countries
            • Stop another war : LofN & 14 Points
          • Self Determination
            • People of Eastern Europe
      • Clemenceau
        • Punish Germany
          • Revenge for Suffering
            • 1,697,800 dead - 'Nearly every family lost at least 1 member' - (Keiger)
          • Reparations for damage
            • £8bn needed - infrastructure, battlefields etc.
        • Protection
          • Germany couldn't attack again
            • Bufferzones e.g. Demilitarized Rhineland
            • Armed forces - 100,000
            • Industry:
              • Lose 15% Coal Production
              • Lose 15% Arable land
              • Lose 50% Iron production
            • Split G into smaller states
      • Lloyd George
        • Protect British Interests
          • End threat to Navy
            • Lost Colonies - East Africa and Togoland to GB
            • G had No navy
        • Personal- Not treat G too harshly
          • Wanted to trade with Germany
          • May lead to rise of communism
        • Public German Hatred
          • 'Squeeze the Lemon until the pips speak'
          • Applied for £24bn in reparations
    • Impact on Germany up until 1923?
      • Shock
        • Presented with harsh treaty
          • Didn't believe they lost the war
            • Still in French territory when armistice was signed
            • Positive propaganda, Greeting of soldiers on return
        • Kaiser had been overthrown
          • Germans blamed war on Kaiser - Fled in 1918 revolution
      • Unrest in Germany
        • Popular attitudes
          • Angry at German leaders for signing
            • Ebert and others 'November criminals
          • Thought it would be based on 14 points
      • Military Terms
        • Army angry - disarmament
          • Many Joined Freikorps
            • Dangerous - Karl Leibnich & Rosa Luxemburg murdered
            • E.g. Ernst Roehm & Himmler
      • War Guilt
        • Didn't accept- Didn't think they'd lost
          • Propaganda in G
        • Others weren't disarming
          • Scapa Flow- Sink allied ships
    • Why Did the Victors Not Get Everything They Wanted?
      • Lloyd George
        • Forced by Public to be harsh
          • Large reparations- Crippled economy (wanted to trade)
          • Too harsh even though no colonies or navy
      • Clemenceau
        • Wanted a harsher Treaty
          • Reparations immediately - Instalments until 1984
          • Wanted Saarland (15 yrs LofN mandate) and Rhineland (Demilitarized but part of G)
        • Still felt threatened
          • Germany full blame - But not split up into states
          • Still had army of 100,000
      • Clauses of TofV -Brat
        • War Guilt - article 231 : Full blame
        • Reparations
          • 'Blank Cheque' - Not a fixed sum
          • £6.6bn in 1921 -Paid off in 1984
        • German Territories
          • Saarland to LofN -15 yrs then Pleb
          • Northern Schleswig to Den after Pleb
          • West Prussia to Poland - Access to the Seas
          • Colonial Empire shared amongst Allies
          • Alsace-Lorraine to France
        • Germany's Armed Forces
          • Navy - 6 battleships
          • No armoured vehicles, subs, aircraft
          • Army -100,000
          • Rhineland demilitarized
          • Conscription banned
        • Germany not allowed in LofN
      • Woodrow Wilson
        • Did not install all of 14 points
          • Lloyd George resisted -- freedom of seas
        • Did not want heavy economic penalties
          • Clemenceau -£6.6bn - Revenge for Franco-Prussian war
        • Senate did not authorize joining of LofN
    • The Other Treaties
      • Trianon
        • Hungary
          • Reparations not set - economy weak
          • Territory to Romania, Czech & Yugo
          • No Relationship w/ Austria
          • Army - 30,000
      • St Germain
        • Austria
          • Territory to Yugoslavia & Czech
          • Army - 35,000
          • Forbidden to join with Hungary
          • Reparations not set - Bankrupcy
      • Sevres
        • Ottomans
          • Smyrna to Greece
          • Army 50,000
          • Syria to French Mandate
      • Neuilly
        • Bulgaria
          • Reparations £90mil
          • Army 20,000
          • Territory to Greece, Romania and Yugoslavia
          • Lost access to Mediterranian

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