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      • P1. Any innate idea, x, if it exists, would be universally held
        • P2. Children and idiots do not have the idea of x
          • P3. The notion of having an innate idea, x, and not being aware of it doesn't make sense
            • C1. So x is not universally held
              • C2. Therefore x is not an innate idea
            • Innatist response to this proposition
              • This is resting on Locke's claim that we would be conscious of innate knowledge from birth but no philosopher has given innatism this definition
                • they reject this is argue that experience triggers our awareness of the innate knowledge or some relevant concepts that it depends on
          • Innatist response: they do possess these ideas, they just aren't aware of them
          • LEIBNIZ argued that children and idiots do actually employ the law of identity and the principle of non-contradictory in their everyday actions, it's just that they can't articulate these ideas in words
    • PLATO
        • P1. The slave boy had no prior knowledge of geometry
          • P2. Socrates only asked questions, he does not teach the boy
            • P3. By the end of the questioning the slave boy is able to grasp an eternal truth about geometry
              • P4. This eternal truth was not derived from the boys prior experience, nor from Socretes
                • C1. This eternal truth must have existed innately int he boy to begin with
                  • ARGUMENT
                    • simply shows reason in action not innate knowledge
                    • the boy could have used prior knowledge of shapes and lines
      • P1. The senses can only reveal particular instances
        • P2. The mind can grasp perfect, universal concepts
          • C1. The concepts cannot be derived from the senses
            • C2. These concepts must be contained within us to begin with
              • ARGUMENT
                • We can achieve perfect concepts by removing imperfections from past experienced shapes
      • Plato believed mathematical objects (numbers n shapes) and abstract concepts (justice+beauty) are innate
      • innate ideas are forgotten memories accessed by reasoning


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