Freewill and Determinism and God
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- Freewill and Determinism and God
- Timeless God
- God
- Transcendent
- Freewill
- omniscience
- God 'knows' timelessly
- Simultaneous time
- Complete omniscience
- Is this definition of omniscience enough?
- Do our choices mean anything?
- Knowledge leads to act?
- Does knowing cause us to act?
- Knowledge leads to act?
- God sees our choices
- God
- Kenny
- (Luther Predestination)
- Beast of burden
- God (good) or Satan (evil)
- All of us do what we will
- Good men do Good
- Bad men will do bad
- Boethius
- God's knowledge is not causal of our actions
- Sees the results of our freedom
- We are still the origination of our choices
- God's omniscience is complete in that one moment of time
- Possible evaluation
- We still have freewill
- Everlasting God
- The everlasting God is within time
- To him the future is future, past is past
- Linear experience of time
- No problem with God knowing the past and present completely
- Difficulties arise with knowledge of the future
- Can predict?
- Creation and cause?
- Created everything
- Freewill limited
- Predict logically what might happen
- Causation
- Could argue prediction is not the same as knowing with certainty
- Knows all causation
- Can predict?
- Laplacse Demon
- No problem in claiming everlasting God can know today the sun will rise tomorrow and He can know date on which Haley's Comet will return to Solar System
- Information is available to human being as well, since celestial events behave accordingly to known laws
- Can everlasting God, however, know the future free actions of human beings?
- Genuine freedom
- God's omniscience cannot extent to future events
- God has omniscience of all logical choices/what might happen
- Future is not there to be known
- Doesn't limit God's omniscience
- Freedom to act according to our nature
- Liberty of Spontaneity
- Hume
- Illusion
- Geach
- God's plan will happen
- Vardy criticises: we cannot predict the moves we will make with certainty
- Liberty of Spontaneity
- Genuine freedom
- The everlasting God is within time
- Predestination
- Theological determinism based on belief that God created world and all events
- Hard determinism
- Afterlife
- Omniscience
- All knowing
- Omniscience and freewill maintained
- Predestination refers to God electing/choosing who will go to Heavan + Hell
- Xn believe we have freewill
- We would be of little value if we didn't freely choose to worship him
- Freewill allows us to make genuine moral choices that lead us to, or away from, God.
- We can't act morally without freewill
- The story of Adam + Eve is classic example of a misuse of God given freedom of choice
- Omniscience + Freewill
- Creation - omniscient images
- Transcendence
- Outside of time and space
- Omniscience is beyond us
- His conscience is not causal
- Genuine choice
- Faith
- Sacrament
- An outside sign of an inward grace
- Maintaining God's omniscience
- Molina's Middle Knowledge
- God knows all that will happen and could or would happen under different circumstances
- Subjunctive conditionals
- Contrary to fact
- e.g. I haven't won the lottery but if I did I would..
- Contrary to fact
- 'If...then...'
- Kennedy example
- "If Oswald didn't shoot Kennedy, someone else did."
- Molina's Middle Knowledge
- Timeless God
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