Evaluation of Obedience

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  • Evaluation of Obedience
    • internal validity
      • participants may not have beleived shocks were real
        • stress symptoms are hare to fake
      • Experimenter gave inconsistent infomation
        • said shocks were lavelles as dangerous but would not cause tissue damage
      • Sampling wasnt that random
        • newspaper recruited and paid
        • encourages certain types of people to volunteer
      • Reicher & Haslam
        • if P's were obedient they should have been more obedient the more the prod was like an order but this was not the case
        • There is little evidence for the agentic state. only considers relationship between p's and experimenter not p's and victim
      • Social identify explanation (Reicher & Haslam)
        • Behaviour depends on perceptions of shared identity with experimenter or victim
        • obedience levels  fall as soon as p's are encouraged to categorise themselves with experimenter
          • spatial arrangements experimenter is absent
          • experimenter being less prototypical of the science category carried out at yale rather than office builfing
          • experiment imposing himself over p
          • p coming aware of victim
    • external validity
      • Mandel (1998)l
        • Obedience does not provide a valid explanation of what happened during the holocaust
          • obedience and agentic state are circular concepts
          • no evidence fo all - or - non quality and reversibility of the agantic state as propsed my milgram
          • holocaust crimes despite close proximity, minimal supervision & other refusing to participate
      • doubt the results could be obtained in different contexts
        • milgrams results have been replicated by Burger with 70% of ps stopping when learner wantes (original was 82.5%)
    • Ethical considerations
      • potetnial long term mental heath
      • should have been warned potential stressful
      • slaater (2006) recent replication using virtual victim could help investigate further in future

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